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	<title>Comments on: More school lunch meat shockers</title>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.foodpolitics.com/2009/12/more-school-lunch-meat-shockers/comment-page-1/#comment-34315</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandmother would be turning over in her grave, because she always insisted on a spent hen for stewing.  In the 1960&#039;s you could still find them occasionally in a super market.  It is the most flavorful meat there is, and because of the age of the bird the best use is for chicken and dumplings, or soup.

If schools are getting cheap meat from the USDA, they should just make sure to check it for bones when they open the can (I assume it arrives canned).  

I put my own chickens, turkeys, and beef in my freezer, and I&#039;m well aware of the quality of meat from different aged animals.  People assuming spent hens aren&#039;t that good is just an example of how far away the general population is away from their food supply.  It&#039;s not that those hens aren&#039;t good, it&#039;s that the population is ignorant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandmother would be turning over in her grave, because she always insisted on a spent hen for stewing.  In the 1960&#8242;s you could still find them occasionally in a super market.  It is the most flavorful meat there is, and because of the age of the bird the best use is for chicken and dumplings, or soup.</p>
<p>If schools are getting cheap meat from the USDA, they should just make sure to check it for bones when they open the can (I assume it arrives canned).  </p>
<p>I put my own chickens, turkeys, and beef in my freezer, and I&#8217;m well aware of the quality of meat from different aged animals.  People assuming spent hens aren&#8217;t that good is just an example of how far away the general population is away from their food supply.  It&#8217;s not that those hens aren&#8217;t good, it&#8217;s that the population is ignorant!</p>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s On Your Plate? Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; School Lunch Gets a Passing Grade</title>
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		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s On Your Plate? Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; School Lunch Gets a Passing Grade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of “old hen meat” are being served in schools, amounting to approximately 145 million dollars. Spent hens, so called because they can no longer hatch eggs, are not a favorite consumer product due to their [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but the age of a chicken does not make them prone to bacterial infections like salmonella. Unsanitary conditions and/or handling do. 
(However, you did point out the major flaw in the study, namely that all the data came from a single source, and not from several plants in different areas.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhm, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, but the age of a chicken does not make them prone to bacterial infections like salmonella. Unsanitary conditions and/or handling do.<br />
(However, you did point out the major flaw in the study, namely that all the data came from a single source, and not from several plants in different areas.)</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the USA Today article: 

Because the hens are usually restricted to tiny cages, they often suffer from osteoporosis and have especially brittle bones that easily splinter. When schools reported bones in the chicken, the government stopped purchases for school meals in April 2003. After new provisions aimed at preventing bone splinters — and lobbying by the trade group, United Egg Producers — purchases resumed that July.

Besides the bones issue, some scientists believe spent-hen meat is more likely to carry salmonella, which can be especially dangerous for children. A 2002 study by Washington State University&#039;s Avian Health and Food Safety Laboratory found that spent-hen carcasses were four times more likely than broilers to be contaminated with salmonella. The spent hens in the study were from a single plant, so the results offer no proof that similar problems occur on a broader scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the USA Today article: </p>
<p>Because the hens are usually restricted to tiny cages, they often suffer from osteoporosis and have especially brittle bones that easily splinter. When schools reported bones in the chicken, the government stopped purchases for school meals in April 2003. After new provisions aimed at preventing bone splinters — and lobbying by the trade group, United Egg Producers — purchases resumed that July.</p>
<p>Besides the bones issue, some scientists believe spent-hen meat is more likely to carry salmonella, which can be especially dangerous for children. A 2002 study by Washington State University&#8217;s Avian Health and Food Safety Laboratory found that spent-hen carcasses were four times more likely than broilers to be contaminated with salmonella. The spent hens in the study were from a single plant, so the results offer no proof that similar problems occur on a broader scale.</p>
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		<title>By: manuel</title>
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		<dc:creator>manuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old hen,new hen,borrowed hen,blue hen-what the hell&#039;s the difference !? a hen by any other name ! we hav far greater problems with eatin in this country &amp; with our incompetent govt &#039;s attempts 2 sav us from our food,than the issue of ingesting an old hen- &amp; im a vegan !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old hen,new hen,borrowed hen,blue hen-what the hell&#8217;s the difference !? a hen by any other name ! we hav far greater problems with eatin in this country &amp; with our incompetent govt &#8216;s attempts 2 sav us from our food,than the issue of ingesting an old hen- &amp; im a vegan !</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Thorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret Thorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s unsafe about old hen meat? It might not sound great, but stewed or, more likely, processed into nuggets or fingers, it would have more flavor than most other chicken meat, I’d think. And it would be as safe as any other chicken. No one has found &quot;mad chicken&quot; disease yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s unsafe about old hen meat? It might not sound great, but stewed or, more likely, processed into nuggets or fingers, it would have more flavor than most other chicken meat, I’d think. And it would be as safe as any other chicken. No one has found &#8220;mad chicken&#8221; disease yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &quot;old hen&quot; is meat from exhausted laying hens, then they aren&#039;t really very &quot;old&quot;--one or two years. Is this so bad? What is to be done with these poor birds if they are not used for food? I&#039;m a vegetarian, mind you; but I do eat eggs (I have my own chickens).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;old hen&#8221; is meat from exhausted laying hens, then they aren&#8217;t really very &#8220;old&#8221;&#8211;one or two years. Is this so bad? What is to be done with these poor birds if they are not used for food? I&#8217;m a vegetarian, mind you; but I do eat eggs (I have my own chickens).</p>
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