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		<title>By: Sabrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 22:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One soda a day will cause you to gain 10 pounds in one year?...Probably for someone who does not workout regularly. I am pretty sure they are probably eating something else that is helping them to gain weight too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One soda a day will cause you to gain 10 pounds in one year?&#8230;Probably for someone who does not workout regularly. I am pretty sure they are probably eating something else that is helping them to gain weight too.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 20:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the ad was great -- excellent graphic illustration of the correlation between too much sugary pop and what it really means to the body, which is fat. It&#039;s easy for non-obese people to argue the merits of a healthy beverage, like milk, against pop, whether it&#039;s sugar or diet.. the fact is, we have an obesity problem in this country and let&#039;s get started on it. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the ad was great &#8212; excellent graphic illustration of the correlation between too much sugary pop and what it really means to the body, which is fat. It&#8217;s easy for non-obese people to argue the merits of a healthy beverage, like milk, against pop, whether it&#8217;s sugar or diet.. the fact is, we have an obesity problem in this country and let&#8217;s get started on it. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.foodpolitics.com/2009/12/sodas-sweetened-and-not/comment-page-1/#comment-34293</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soda companies spend millions to link soda to good feelings. 

We need to fight twice as hard as the soda companies do to link soda to fat. That&#039;s why this is a spectacular ad. Now we need gobs more along these lines. 

The milk issue is beside the point. It&#039;s all about raising the bar of public health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soda companies spend millions to link soda to good feelings. </p>
<p>We need to fight twice as hard as the soda companies do to link soda to fat. That&#8217;s why this is a spectacular ad. Now we need gobs more along these lines. </p>
<p>The milk issue is beside the point. It&#8217;s all about raising the bar of public health.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Brazeau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Brazeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  It&#039;s a great ad, except for the fact that the cute guy is hardly cautionary.

2.  I believe that soda is about to become the cigarettes of nutrition.  It&#039;s not as simple as calories in / calories out and too much of anything will make you fat. 

A) Beverages don&#039;t trigger satiety because we evolved drinking water which we don&#039;t consume for energy we consume for hydration.  Sodas fake out our system and we can consume endless calories that way. 

B) Very little has be done to look at the effect of high fructose corn syrup vs. sugar because the nutritional community looked at it and said 45/55 sucrose to fructose is pretty much the same thing as 50/50 nothing to see here, move on.  That&#039;s bad science.  That could be very significant from an endocrinological perspective.  The correlation between the advent of HFCS and the obsesity epidemic suggests as much.  

C) We are seeing more evidence on the addictive properties of highly processed food.  Watch the &quot;before&quot; diets of Biggest Loser contestants or the people profiled in any article about big weight loss and they eating almost entirely highly processed junk food.  No one becomes obese gorging themselves on fresh fruits and vegetable, whole grains and natural meats and cheeses.

3,  The low fat milk thing will just not die.  The one study that I&#039;m aware of showed that consumption of low fat and skim milk by kids correlated with overweight and obesity while whole milk consumption did not.  The research surmised that the fact that the nutrient milk fat works on your thyroid to stimulate lean muscle production.  Low fat and skim milk have a greater percentage of sugar calories.  At a gut level, whole milk is as nature constituted it while removing the fat is our attempt to monkey with it to make it more nutritional, something we don&#039;t have a great track record with, trans fat margarine comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  It&#8217;s a great ad, except for the fact that the cute guy is hardly cautionary.</p>
<p>2.  I believe that soda is about to become the cigarettes of nutrition.  It&#8217;s not as simple as calories in / calories out and too much of anything will make you fat. </p>
<p>A) Beverages don&#8217;t trigger satiety because we evolved drinking water which we don&#8217;t consume for energy we consume for hydration.  Sodas fake out our system and we can consume endless calories that way. </p>
<p>B) Very little has be done to look at the effect of high fructose corn syrup vs. sugar because the nutritional community looked at it and said 45/55 sucrose to fructose is pretty much the same thing as 50/50 nothing to see here, move on.  That&#8217;s bad science.  That could be very significant from an endocrinological perspective.  The correlation between the advent of HFCS and the obsesity epidemic suggests as much.  </p>
<p>C) We are seeing more evidence on the addictive properties of highly processed food.  Watch the &#8220;before&#8221; diets of Biggest Loser contestants or the people profiled in any article about big weight loss and they eating almost entirely highly processed junk food.  No one becomes obese gorging themselves on fresh fruits and vegetable, whole grains and natural meats and cheeses.</p>
<p>3,  The low fat milk thing will just not die.  The one study that I&#8217;m aware of showed that consumption of low fat and skim milk by kids correlated with overweight and obesity while whole milk consumption did not.  The research surmised that the fact that the nutrient milk fat works on your thyroid to stimulate lean muscle production.  Low fat and skim milk have a greater percentage of sugar calories.  At a gut level, whole milk is as nature constituted it while removing the fat is our attempt to monkey with it to make it more nutritional, something we don&#8217;t have a great track record with, trans fat margarine comes to mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Lou Friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lou Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 03:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It think its great to see something out there to combat all those soda ads, but as with so many messages about healthier food, I wonder what kind of impact it will actually have.  I think its ok to have low fat, or preferably skim milk in there, it at least has some additional nutritional value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It think its great to see something out there to combat all those soda ads, but as with so many messages about healthier food, I wonder what kind of impact it will actually have.  I think its ok to have low fat, or preferably skim milk in there, it at least has some additional nutritional value.</p>
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		<title>By: rjm</title>
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		<dc:creator>rjm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 01:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All things considered, soda is a prime junk food consumed by many Americans and thus is one, of many sources, that contributes to the growing problem of being overweight and/or obese.  So while there are other foods which serve as enablers of such a problem, sodas are one of the key foods which allow people to easily exceed their caloric requirements.  Thus, technical criticisms aside(such as, one soda a day &quot;can&quot; contribute up to 10 pounds of fat if and only if it exceeds your caloric requirements), it is sound advice for those that don&#039;t know any better, when it comes to nutrition, to just weed sodas out of their diet.  Though, I suppose that is debatable, considering some of the comments already made in the comments section of the video(e.g., soda has sugar and no fat in it, therefore, it can&#039;t make you fat).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All things considered, soda is a prime junk food consumed by many Americans and thus is one, of many sources, that contributes to the growing problem of being overweight and/or obese.  So while there are other foods which serve as enablers of such a problem, sodas are one of the key foods which allow people to easily exceed their caloric requirements.  Thus, technical criticisms aside(such as, one soda a day &#8220;can&#8221; contribute up to 10 pounds of fat if and only if it exceeds your caloric requirements), it is sound advice for those that don&#8217;t know any better, when it comes to nutrition, to just weed sodas out of their diet.  Though, I suppose that is debatable, considering some of the comments already made in the comments section of the video(e.g., soda has sugar and no fat in it, therefore, it can&#8217;t make you fat).</p>
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		<title>By: Anthro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should the ad be controversial, other than the suggestion to drink low-fat milk? Milk can have its place in a decent diet, but drinking it all the time as a &quot;beverage&quot; is as silly as anything else. I limit my milk to 6 oz/day in my latte in order to stay in my caloric limit. Of course, I sometimes have more--in soup or some other food, but the real issue is why do people feel the constant need for a &quot;beverage&quot;? That brings us back to MARKETING. It&#039;s another created &quot;need&quot; brought to you by Madison Avenue and the &quot;beverage&quot; industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should the ad be controversial, other than the suggestion to drink low-fat milk? Milk can have its place in a decent diet, but drinking it all the time as a &#8220;beverage&#8221; is as silly as anything else. I limit my milk to 6 oz/day in my latte in order to stay in my caloric limit. Of course, I sometimes have more&#8211;in soup or some other food, but the real issue is why do people feel the constant need for a &#8220;beverage&#8221;? That brings us back to MARKETING. It&#8217;s another created &#8220;need&#8221; brought to you by Madison Avenue and the &#8220;beverage&#8221; industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe this is that true.  I mean sure sugary soda is not the best choice.  But it is all about calories in vs calories out.  I never drink soda, I have never really liked the taste.  To me it seems like an ad campaign produced by the milk company.  If they requested us to New Yorkers to substitute anything instead of a calorie laden sugary soda, I would recommend green tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not believe this is that true.  I mean sure sugary soda is not the best choice.  But it is all about calories in vs calories out.  I never drink soda, I have never really liked the taste.  To me it seems like an ad campaign produced by the milk company.  If they requested us to New Yorkers to substitute anything instead of a calorie laden sugary soda, I would recommend green tea.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree, Johann-- note that I haven&#039;t said that there is a cause-effect relationship.  I only suspect it will ultimately be found to be so.

The dangerous part of artifically sweetened soft drinks is that they are often &quot;no-calorie,&quot; (I&#039;m not actually clear on what that means, precisely) so people feel free to indulge.  But there have been several studies I know of in which there is a correlation between consumption of diet soft drinks and higher rates of overweight.  Causation hasn&#039;t been shown by any means, but I do suspect it&#039;s there.

The causative effect of sugar- and HFCS-sweetened drinks is quite clear, though-- as you say, too much of ANYTHING, especially something high in calories and low in nutrients is clearly going to make anyone fat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree, Johann&#8211; note that I haven&#8217;t said that there is a cause-effect relationship.  I only suspect it will ultimately be found to be so.</p>
<p>The dangerous part of artifically sweetened soft drinks is that they are often &#8220;no-calorie,&#8221; (I&#8217;m not actually clear on what that means, precisely) so people feel free to indulge.  But there have been several studies I know of in which there is a correlation between consumption of diet soft drinks and higher rates of overweight.  Causation hasn&#8217;t been shown by any means, but I do suspect it&#8217;s there.</p>
<p>The causative effect of sugar- and HFCS-sweetened drinks is quite clear, though&#8211; as you say, too much of ANYTHING, especially something high in calories and low in nutrients is clearly going to make anyone fat.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
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		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>notice how the dairy lobby got low-fat milk in on the good side for the ad? even though 8oz of milk is actually more calories than an 8oz pepsi!!!!

seltzer, water and plain tea are all great calorie free drinks.
i cant believe they snuck milk in there......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>notice how the dairy lobby got low-fat milk in on the good side for the ad? even though 8oz of milk is actually more calories than an 8oz pepsi!!!!</p>
<p>seltzer, water and plain tea are all great calorie free drinks.<br />
i cant believe they snuck milk in there&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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