Comments on: Recent food safety problems caused by raw milk

By: Jennifer Feeney

Jennifer Feeney — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 16:00:19 +0000

I followed the link to the Real Raw Milk Facts site and reported raw milk outbreaks. I followed the links to the reports of outbreak. I got about half way through the chart and one thing seemed clear: most of the cases that are reported have not been confirmed. I looked further and found that, once again, in most cases the farms were not found infected. Reports say people have been sickened after reporting that they drank raw milk. But if there is no evidence at the farm, how can these outbreaks be included on the list? I am going to systematically go through the entire chart and see what I find. I’m curious if proponents of pasteurization have done this research as well? I am, honestly, still on the fence. Hence my desire to do more research.

By: Healthy Diet

Healthy Diet — Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:10:17 +0000

I agree with Marion Nestle. While selling food products one should see that the food he is selling is nutritive and does not cause harm to anyone.
-anna smith

By: Anthro

Anthro — Tue, 27 Jul 2010 15:24:11 +0000

Well, Nika, I DID say “most people”, which is meant to allow for exceptions. Both your posts are quite rude, so there is little reason to take you seriously.

To those who make this a “choice” issue: I don’t think Marion, me, or anyone else wants to prevent you drinking raw milk if you so choose. Marion simply wants the milk to be safe. I am a little more interested in your reasons. I maintain that most people who drink raw milk think it has some magical health benefits and that this is simply not true. Show me the evidence if you disagree–peer-reiviewed and published in a scientific journal, please. Also, I could care less if you adults who drink the stuff get sick, but I DO care about your children who don’t get to make their own choices about these things.

By: Moshi

Moshi — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:38:01 +0000

The nation’s largest recorded outbreak of Salmonella was due to PASTEURIZED milk contaminated with antibiotic-resistant Salmonella typhimurium. The outbreak, which occurred between June 1984 and April 1985 sickened over 200,000 and caused 18 deaths.

Bacteria-Contaminated Milk from Massachusetts Dairy is Blamed for 3 Deaths, Miscarriage
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321171,00.html

By: Moshi

Moshi — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:37:28 +0000

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,321171,00.html

By: Bob Hayles

Bob Hayles — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:59:48 +0000

Its odd how people who supposedly believe in freedom don’t believe folks have the right to do something as simple as making there own food choices.

I wouldn’t dream of calling for the closing of MickyD’s, or any other fast food garbage seller. I wouldn’t presume to tell you not to eat that overprocessed, GMO laden, chemical swamp that is sold in the average supermarket…why do you presume to tell me what I may eat? Where do you…or the government…get that power?

Marler is a coward who won’t even address the rights part of choosing our own food. He was given an opportunity to refute an argument for food rights on legal grounds…he declined.

Personally, I think it’s because he knows he’d lose…and as Marler himself has so arrogantly said, “I never lose.”

He’s probably right. A coward who won’t engage in battle doesn’t lose.

For those interested, the article he can’t refute is here: http://www.juicymaters.com/foodpolitics/2010/06/04/nutritional-rights-is-there-a-right-to-fight-for/

Bob Hayles

By: kenji

kenji — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:24:27 +0000

Bill, with a quick glance back to March 26th I found this:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsroom/PressAnnouncements/ucm206311.htm

I think if you go into April the numbers might have gone closer to 18 people or so, in some articles.

Living in chicago we got a bunch of press reports because it was geographically close.

By: Brandon Smith

Brandon Smith — Mon, 26 Jul 2010 02:22:34 +0000

If you think milk’s production should be done carefully and lovingly enough that it’s safe to drink raw, I salute you.

And if you’re in or near Chicago, you can join the supper club of which I’m a part, Clandestino. We’re holding raw milk dinners Aug. 20 and 21, where every dish involves the use of (SAFE) raw milk.

This and many other “underground” operations like mine is fine dining at its best, folks, and ours has all the food edu-tainment you can muster.

P.S. – Marion, it’s me, Brandon, the journalism student that contributed for a while to Fed Up With School Lunch.

-B.
@eatClandestino

By: Jill

Jill — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:44:24 +0000

Bill Marler wrote a blog about contaminated pasteurized milk:

http://www.marlerblog.com/2008/01/articles/legal-cases/4-people-dead-after-drinking-listerialaden-pasteurized-milk-from-massachusetts/

I agree with Dr. Nestle – producers of raw milk should make sure their products are safe – that goes for any food producer.

By: stan

stan — Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:18:47 +0000

I thought this was a free country… why can’t people who want to drink raw milk be allowed to?

The answer is that it’s not about safety – the dairy industry is trying to protect their market, and they do this by trying to discredit the raw milk farmers. You see, factory-farm milk production is so filthy that they can’t offer clean raw milk – they have to pasteurize.